I know some of the commies that hit me are going to be in a world of pain when I get around to retalling them 😂

I think you would be better off to just SPY LB Hess. You just run an op.. real time data vs looking at a final picture and instead watching that picture unfold in real time every so often. Or just say, hey, nice commie how are you doing it ? ;) lol

That was all I was doing with tmac. Jets and turrets were selling for 80 and 90 and fast and for a prolonged period. Tech was pushing 4k. I have no idea but I just copied him more or less. Of course he smashed my final nw, as of course he was making awesome grabs smacking em all up good. I am not 100% that may have even been the set LB decided to farm him like 7 times and he still won with 25m more nw than my 2nd place.

I'm not into wasting turns if I don't have too :)

Also, I'd be likely to fail a spy attempt, which could potentially draw unwanted attention

funny enough, I've only won Primary twice and it was with a Commie Indy both times, so I think modeling my CI's after Serp's finishes is an adequate strategy anyways

This set would be a great commie set. I keep having to buy PM jets at $180

You keep saying this but I have mil sit on there at reasonable prices for like 6-8 hours before its all even sold. It's probably playtime differences. Put some standing orders up.

Today is first time that I bought market jets at $155

Just got enough to retal the one big commie

AB time.😇

I knew i should have farmed you 🤪

It would be nice, since the server is now allowing all kinds of spy attacks, if the formulas to determine a success or failure could be improved a bit??

It’s kinda wild that a country with hardly any spies, that is very poorly run and with a poor spal, can do so much damage to an established country with high spal

I’d you try to attack me with AB’s and you don’t have enough tanks you simply don’t get through, and if you try to SS or PS without having enough military you simply don’t get through

However, you can have a low number or spies in a terrible country that can’t accomplish anything like this dude that’s hitting me, and you can still do all kinds of damage 🤷‍♂️

I wonder if having spy tech make a larger difference to larger countries might be a solution. Like, we don't haveenough spies to be everywhere, but we've got eyes in the sky and space lasers and fluff.

This is what I did. I don’t even play commie but I recognized him as such a skilled player I thought it would be too valuable to not obtain that info. And that’s the story of why I have LB’s commie Indy start saved. I don’t think I’ll ever play Indy though.

Lol hunting is not so fun when the rabbit has the gun or so the old saying goes.

The problem I see is when you can look at the rabbit and clearly see that the rabbit has no idea how to use his gun, and that its only a pellet gun

However, the rabbit is somehow still able to blow up a few thousand of your buildings with it

I've been receiving said spy ops too, and perhaps the tradeoff here is good enough (to give the people who end up being classic landfarms some way to fight back).

Didn't intend to farm anyone originally with the new rules, but after hitting just about everyone on the server (that could be hit), it was time to farm, and then target selection has been really crucial here, on who to farm and how to farm them. (Yes, having CS blown up not as fun lol but I think necessary. I mean we already have 3 self-deletes this set from becoming land farms... Maybe they didn't know about the new rules. As they lose land their SPAL goes up and can become more of a nuisance.)

Sounds like classic is healing!

Under what parameters? Self deletes = FAIL

"target selection has been really crucial here, on who to farm and how to farm them"

"As they lose land their SPAL goes up and can become more of a nuisance"

The game mechanics themselves driving incentives. Inequalities self correcting, rather than imposing artificial constraints. Players, resolving issues through the game itself, rather than lobbying on the forums or other such channels.

The laissez-faire approach, vs the regulated approach.

As you may gather, I believe the former is a superior philosophy that tends to lead to better outcomes in the long term, because it is explicitly geared towards preventing perverse incentives.

Regulation tends to veer towards cronyism, and often falls foul of creating unintended consequences.

New players won't be lobbying nor posting on the forums because, they are new players, I play a lot of online games and at one point I was new to all of them and like the majority of new players, I didn't bother logging into their forums or discord, I still haven't in many of them so you won't see any complaints, all you'll see is not returning costumers, let's see how many red countries there are at the end of this set, 5 is the number to equal last round, if it is higher than that then there needs to be a little more tweaking, letting them shoot missiles seems like a fair compromise since people doing the farming aren't losing much by farming and still inflicting pain on smaller countries,

Just a thought

Do you think these countries deleted because of the new rules?

I suppose I just need to learn how spy strength is calculated … in much the same way I have learned how military strength is calculated 🤷‍♂️

No, they self delete in frustration which is my point, how would they know what they can do with spies if chances are they don't partake in the forums or discord 🤷

Do you think they would have self deleted under the old rules?

Yes, what's your point? Mine is as I stated, they can't defend themselves from the farming so they quit, spies ops alone is obviously not enough if they're self deleting.

Humanitarian protections actually, should be voided entirely after you farm someone so they can launch missiles and do any special attacks on you

I think these people quit when they realize they're not going to win,

They start the round with delusions of grandeur, and then as soon as they get smacked into reality once they simply quit

They would likely quit even if they were given the ability to launch their missiles

Do you know if the new rules have cause more or less people to self delete?



I think you are right. I think some people will always quit regardless of what you give them. Still, people have been given something.

I think there is a critical difference between giving people more options with ops than missiles, it is this:

You fire your missiles, they are gone. You get farmed more. You have no more missiles, maybe you get a few each day. What do you do now? Self delete?

You do your harmful spy ops, you get farmed more, your SPAL is stronger and tomorrow you can do more harmful ops, with even greater success. Sure, there is still a chance you self delete, especially if you aren't aware. you can do these ops.

I like the second option because it seems much closer to how civilised society works — at least, as much as one could expect, in the context of a war game — the more of a fluff you are to other people, the more payback you get. This is stage one of learning not to be a fluff. After a while the conditioning kicks in, stage two, people think twice about being a fluff for fear of payback.

Some people never quite reach some of these developmental milestones, but that is to be expected. The bellend curve dictates it.

Unfortunately there isn't really a way to be strong with spy defences and also get fat enough to win

You still need to farm as many as you can in order to win, so now it becomes even more a game of luck, and the winner depends on who eats the most spy attacks versus who doesn't

Also makes CI even stronger as they are the only ones with a realistic chance to get fat and maintain a high spal defence

This is true that CI have the easiest time rebuilding their spies, though if too many countries end up playing CI then maybe prices will be bad.

That said, the military market has been very empty most of this set. -_-