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Apr 10th 2012, 3:21:10

i wanna see japan attempt to shoot it down. how much sdi tech do you think japan has?
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Apr 10th 2012, 3:22:42

http://news.yahoo.com/...sks-remain-022733314.html

North Korea readies longer range rocket; Japan, South Korea wary

CHOLSAN, North Korea/SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea has readied a rocket for a launch from a forested valley in its remote northwest this week that will showcase the reclusive state's ability to fire a missile with the capacity to hit the continental United States.

Pyongyang says the rocket, to be launched this week, will only carry a weather satellite, but South Korea and the United States say it is a test of a ballistic missile. And although the risk of it veering off course is low, guidance remains its weakest point.

In a rare move, reporters were taken to the new Sohae launch station, close to the border with China, where work was in progress to ready the 30-metre high Unha-3 rocket and its satellite.

The three-stage rocket was on the launch platform, indicating the launch will go ahead on plan between April 12-16.

"Supreme Commander Kim Jong-un made a very bold decision, that is why you are allowed to be this close to the launch site," site director Jang Myong Jin told visiting foreign journalists on Sunday.

North Korea announced plans to launch the satellite-bearing rocket to coincide with the 100th birthday celebrations of its founder, Kim Il-sung, a move that will help cement the prestige of his grandson Kim Jong-un, who took power in December.

The second stage booster is planned to separate in the seas to the west of the Philippines, about 3,000 km (1,860 miles) from the launch site, and experts say that represents the first possible landfall for the rocket if things go wrong.

If North Korea does achieve a successful separation of the third stage - something it says it achieved in 2009, but most experts say failed to put a previous satellite into orbit - that would show it had improved its technology and the capacity to produce a missile that could carry an intercontinental nuclear warhead.

Pyongyang has also shifted its launch site, and the new, more sophisticated site on the west of the Korean peninsula reduces the risk of debris falling on Japan, which was overflown in a previous test-launch of a missile.

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Graphics on North Korea's rocket and missiles: http://link.reuters.com/fyg57s

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This launch will take the rocket down the west coast of the Korean peninsula. Japan, which fears a repeat of a 2009 firing over its territory, has put its missile batteries on alert to shoot the rocket down.

"They have come pretty far on the question of range, but they still need a lot to resolve in the precision technology needed for (warhead) re-entry and guidance," a South Korean military official who spoke on condition of anonymity said.

The Unha-3 is likely the same three-stage liquid-fueled ballistic missile the North fired in 2009 over Japan which eventually splashed down after a 3,800 km flight, military experts in South Korea said.

The new rocket is believed to have a design range of more than 6,700 km (4,160 miles), and can carry a payload of up to 1,000 kg.

At its closest point, Alaska in the United States is about 5,000 km from North Korea.

The launch will be the first at the Sohae rocket station, construction of which began in 2007. It is a large, sophisticated facility with specialized assembly and transport, according to analysis from military specialist consultancy IHS Jane's Defense Weekly.

LITTLE RISK

While most international observers doubt that the Unha-2 rocket launched in 2009 managed to put a satellite into orbit, few experts believe there is a high risk the Unha-3 will land on a densely populated urban area.

The biggest risks are a massive failure of the guidance system that could send the rocket north over China, the North's main political and economic backer, or the destruct mechanism not functioning if it does veer off course, said Markus Schiller from Schmucker Technologie in Munich, an expert on North Korean missile systems.

"There always is a residual risk, of course, that several things might go wrong and lead to unforeseen disaster ... but this risk is very low, actually approaching zero," Schiller said in an emailed response to questions.

"It is far more likely that the rocket itself fails and blows apart."

The launch site is located 50 km (30 miles) from North Korea's border with China.

"The worst case scenario is it strays into China or South Korea if the rocket goes out of control," said an expert on rocket technology at a South Korean state-run research institute, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the issue.

While North Korea's 23 million people live in poverty and many are at risk of malnutrition, the prestige of developing rocket technology and nuclear weapons capacity is the most important issue for Pyongyang, which sees it as a deterrent against invasion.

The North is believed to have stockpiled enough fissile material to manufacture up to 10 nuclear bombs and South Korea's Yonhap news agency said on Sunday it was preparing for a third nuclear test.

Government officials in South Korea have calculated the North is spending $19 million on this launch.

"I believe North Korea is developing many technologies simultaneously - technologies on rocket that can deliver nuclear warheads, materials that can cope with high temperature when reentering the atmosphere and on the miniaturization of nuclear bombs," said the South Korean rocket expert.
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Apr 10th 2012, 3:23:50

I hope they have more SDI than you will have when I dump my missiles on you in a few weeks!

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Apr 10th 2012, 3:26:00

USA has SDI on boats floating around to zap it :p
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Apr 10th 2012, 4:10:30

tempest in a tea cup...

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Apr 11th 2012, 5:43:18

as eric said.
so they're not allowed to have nuclear reactors (along with half the rest of the world as far as the US is concerned), nor are they allowed to enter space exploration, or do anything else. Nothing less than a complete capitulation and merge into south korea with the south korean government controlling the whole lot will satisfy the US.
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Apr 11th 2012, 6:39:06

Originally posted by Drow:
as eric said.
so they're not allowed to have nuclear reactors (along with half the rest of the world as far as the US is concerned), nor are they allowed to enter space exploration, or do anything else. Nothing less than a complete capitulation and merge into south korea with the south korean government controlling the whole lot will satisfy the US.


+1

Nothing will satisfy USA as long as their politics is to dominate any resourcefull zone by military and economic power and oppresion. However for the moment they are loosing the economic power in favor of China.

The justify is simple: "terrorism" "weapons of mass destruction" "comunism that will nuke us in the near future".

They spend a lot of money for lieing 300 mil people ( and half of USA pop. trully and deply belive their lies )

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Apr 11th 2012, 7:09:41

Ya! It isnt like there are multiple countries who feel the same way or anything! Its all the US...

right?!

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Apr 11th 2012, 7:20:36

The Koreans should duke it out in SC2.
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Apr 11th 2012, 8:35:00

Originally posted by Sifos:
The Koreans should duke it out in SC2.


The bad side of korea has people starving let alone a pc to play SC2
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Apr 11th 2012, 8:38:20

Originally posted by TNTroXxor:
Originally posted by Sifos:
The Koreans should duke it out in SC2.


The bad side of korea has people starving let alone a pc to play SC2


I'm sure they'd find the budget for a national SC2 programme if they cut their missile testing :P
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Apr 11th 2012, 8:47:24

i remember being able to shoot down a nuke in SC:BW, dunno if that was a bug or somethin
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Apr 12th 2012, 15:22:25

Originally posted by Alin:
Nothing will satisfy USA as long as their politics is to dominate any resourcefull zone by military and economic power and oppresion. However for the moment they are loosing the economic power in favor of China

Actually, the US has recently been reasserting the traditioanl position of the world's economic driver. Not at the same level that we previously have, but Americans are starting to spend a little bit more. Long term, I expect that we have seen a fundamental shift away from the US as the main world economic driver. Longer term (assuming no World War or other significant conflict with the relevant parties), the US will lose ground to China as the world's economic driver.

I think American's have generally reassessed their individual relationship between debt and their own economic forecast/risks. This will result in lower spending vs economic position. Of course, I could just be crazy and we might go back to the way we've been before the most recent recession.
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Apr 12th 2012, 16:18:05

Originally posted by Sifos:
Originally posted by TNTroXxor:
Originally posted by Sifos:
The Koreans should duke it out in SC2.


The bad side of korea has people starving let alone a pc to play SC2


I'm sure they'd find the budget for a national SC2 programme if they cut their missile testing :P


If they cut their weapon's development funds by 50% they could feed their people. And yes, maybe slot sc2 in there somewhere wouldnt want the other side to get all the bragging rights !
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Apr 12th 2012, 16:19:24

Im sure the South Koreans would donate the computers to play SC2 on and then they can as you say duke it out in the game instead. :)

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Apr 12th 2012, 19:52:44

Originally posted by Alin:
Originally posted by Drow:
as eric said.
so they're not allowed to have nuclear reactors (along with half the rest of the world as far as the US is concerned), nor are they allowed to enter space exploration, or do anything else. Nothing less than a complete capitulation and merge into south korea with the south korean government controlling the whole lot will satisfy the US.


+1

Nothing will satisfy USA as long as their politics is to dominate any resourcefull zone by military and economic power and oppresion. However for the moment they are loosing the economic power in favor of China.

The justify is simple: "terrorism" "weapons of mass destruction" "comunism that will nuke us in the near future".

They spend a lot of money for lieing 300 mil people ( and half of USA pop. trully and deply belive their lies )


If you are going to bash America, please spell everything correctly.

This is why I don't trash your second rate country (whatever it might be), because I don't speak your second rate language (whatever it might be).

So let the big Richards (use the short version of that name) be and concentrate on your own second rate (no one cares) country's problem.

*exit line*

AMERICA!!!!!!!!

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SUCK IT!!!!!!!!

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Apr 12th 2012, 21:18:59

Originally posted by Alin:
Originally posted by Drow:
as eric said.
so they're not allowed to have nuclear reactors (along with half the rest of the world as far as the US is concerned), nor are they allowed to enter space exploration, or do anything else. Nothing less than a complete capitulation and merge into south korea with the south korean government controlling the whole lot will satisfy the US.


+1

Nothing will satisfy USA as long as their politics is to dominate any resourcefull zone by military and economic power and oppresion. However for the moment they are loosing the economic power in favor of China.

The justify is simple: "terrorism" "weapons of mass destruction" "comunism that will nuke us in the near future".

They spend a lot of money for lieing 300 mil people ( and half of USA pop. trully and deply belive their lies )


/me rolls eyes at assertions that North Korea are really great guys being victimized by the big mean US.

Silly sheep, both of you:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/...e-north-korea-south-korea

South Korea and Japan are two of the US best allies, North Korea repeatedly attacks and threatens South Korea and Japan, hence they are our enemy. The US has nothing to gain from a hostile and divided Korean peninsula, quite the contrary, a peaceful unified Korea would benefit both the US and China significantly.


Edited By: archaic on Apr 13th 2012, 0:26:18
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Apr 12th 2012, 22:14:13

Originally posted by ZEN:

If you are going to bash America, please spell everything correctly.

This is why I don't trash your second rate country (whatever it might be), because I don't speak your second rate language (whatever it might be).


Bah, what if he/she's english? You already speak his/her second rate language because USA doesn't even have their own language... TROLLOLOL
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Apr 13th 2012, 0:03:23

North Korea's long-range rocket fell into the sea about a minute after launch, Japan's Defense Minister Naoki Tanaka says

http://edition.cnn.com/...unch/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
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Apr 13th 2012, 0:23:44

Yeah, it broke apart...


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Apr 13th 2012, 0:25:20

North Korea - littering the pacific for over 60 years.
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Apr 13th 2012, 4:32:00

Hmmmm...I hear there are some people from NASA are looking for a job. I would say North Korea will have some openings in the near future.

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Apr 13th 2012, 13:28:12

It would have been much more funny if the Japanese Defense Minister had issued that statement about a minute before the launch...

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Apr 13th 2012, 20:07:16

Originally posted by Sifos:
Originally posted by ZEN:

If you are going to bash America, please spell everything correctly.

This is why I don't trash your second rate country (whatever it might be), because I don't speak your second rate language (whatever it might be).


Bah, what if he/she's english? You already speak his/her second rate language because USA doesn't even have their own language... TROLLOLOL


Technically if you count Ebonics...

But that is besides the point. He is not English or American.

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Apr 13th 2012, 20:27:42

Yeah we can thank obama for those job hunting NASA engineers

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Apr 14th 2012, 1:35:33

I was wondering how long we would go before either Obama or Bush got blamed for something with this issue. Not long. :P

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Apr 16th 2012, 1:41:34

ZEN: I'm Aussie. we speak and spell ENGLISH. America can't spell ;)
oh and for the record? we beat your ass at our mutual wargames every year ;)

and yeah, of course the US was going to get mentioned, they are the force behind bullying n.korea and anywhere else that doesn't have a democracy...

Edited By: Drow on Apr 16th 2012, 1:43:53
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Apr 16th 2012, 3:59:26

Drow, do you have any idea what is happening in N.Korea? Do you have any idea that N.Korea would rather launch a rocket then accept food aid (when they desperately need it)?

Do you know that N.KOrea has done multiple nuke tests underground in the past, and they are technically still at war with S.Korea?

YOu should really think about your comments first thoroughly before you post them.

I dont see the US attempting to bully N.Korea, I just see the US attempting to calm volitile situations before they occur.

This isnt just the US reacting to what is occuring in N.Korea by the way.

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Apr 16th 2012, 7:34:43

Originally posted by Jiman:
Drow, do you have any idea what is happening in N.Korea? Do you have any idea that N.Korea would rather launch a rocket then accept food aid (when they desperately need it)?

Do you know that N.KOrea has done multiple nuke tests underground in the past, and they are technically still at war with S.Korea?

YOu should really think about your comments first thoroughly before you post them.

I dont see the US attempting to bully N.Korea, I just see the US attempting to calm volitile situations before they occur.

This isnt just the US reacting to what is occuring in N.Korea by the way.


Well the last 20 years history shows that you are NOT exactlly right. You might be right in the case of N. Korea ( not 100% tough) - but what about the other "n+1" cases ?

The other side sees US attempting to calm volitile situation before they ocure BUT ONLY in the zones where there are resources or other economic interests.

Volatile situation are in 50% of Africa ( where you can find only dust and wind ) and USA never "calmed" those ...

Try to see the whole picture ...

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Apr 16th 2012, 11:51:17

Originally posted by Alin:
Volatile situation are in 50% of Africa ( where you can find only dust and wind ) and USA never "calmed" those ...


Wait, I thought the world wanted us to stop messing in everyone's business and being the world police?

Seriously, if folks want a world police, use a multi-national alliance or kick the UN into gear. Don't tell the US we suck because we don't invade every country with problems. I'd prefer we invaded less countries, not more.

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Apr 17th 2012, 20:03:42

The US doesn't suck,just our politicians.