From:llaar
To:bstrong86
Subject:RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: we need a sit down
Date:Oct 21st, 13:27
Message Body:he hasn't played in a couple years? idk otherwise.... he never made it past recruit before :P

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From:bstrong86
To:llaar
Subject:RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: we need a sit down
Date:Oct 20th, 16:33
Message Body:how does he forget who is attacking. he knew what he was doing.

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From:llaar
To:bstrong86
Subject:RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: we need a sit down
Date:Oct 20th, 15:57
Message Body:hey, is there anything he can do to fix this so he doesn't get killed? up to you

From: NA/Kones - Recruit
To: NA/llaar - Pres - XLII
Subject: Re: dude... whatd you do?
Date: Oct 19, 2012 9:00 PM
Im sorry. I forgot the diplomacy and didnt realize who I was attacking. Ill do whatever needs to be done so everything is repaid

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From:llaar
To:bstrong86
Subject:RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: we need a sit down
Date:Oct 19th, 20:22
Message Body:ah, add that to the retal category page i suggest :)

and i see the GS's blah wtf... i messaged him that i can't protect him from what you guys want to do. i asked if he would be up for paying cash, but didnt promise him that you would accept that offer or anything

i see he double tapped MD justnow too... this dude is gonna be a headache it looks like :(

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From:bstrong86
To:llaar
Subject:RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: we need a sit down
Date:Oct 19th, 17:33
Message Body:http://wiki.earthempires.com/...eath_Knights_Retal_Policy

its thee plain and simple...use alliance directory

warzone gs'ed me. so sad.

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From:llaar
To:bstrong86
Subject:RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: we need a sit down
Date:Oct 19th, 13:09
Message Body:http://wiki.earthempires.com/index.php/Retal_policies
http://wiki.earthempires.com/index.php/Death_Knights

Dont see anything on the wiki

well 3 hits back should get you near 200% no? that work? idk why he grabbed like that not like he really got much at all

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From:bstrong86
To:llaar
Subject:RE: RE: RE: RE: we need a sit down
Date:Oct 19th, 01:24
Message Body:83% not even close enough...

or hits from tagged countries against any number of DK countries within a 48 hour period: For one or two hits, we will hold alliances to their own listed retal rates. *
Three hits, we will resolve this issue through FA contact.
Four hits or more, we're not going to ask, we will kill the offending county; unless the attacker's FA department contacts us prior to the kill run

right off wiki

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From:llaar
To:bstrong86
Subject:RE: RE: RE: we need a sit down
Date:Oct 19th, 00:56
Message Body:is your policy posted anywhere?

you got 83% back already so far

do you guys not use a L:L policy? i couldnt seem to find your retal policy posted on the wiki

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From:llaar
To:bstrong86
Subject:RE: we need a sit down
Date:Oct 18th, 23:27
Message Body:hey man, i see what you're probably not liking

go ahead and retal L:L i suppose

i messaged the member just now to only grab ppl with 1 hit if he's going to grab

he's new back this set from a long long break from the game *sighs*

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From:bstrong86
To:llaar
Subject:RE: RE: we need a sit down
Date:Oct 18th, 23:32
Message Body:our current position in the event of 4 or more hits like that, is detah. demanding reps and my retals.
From:bstrong86
To:llaar
Subject:we need a sit down
Date:Oct 18th, 21:19
Message Body:contact me please, regarding 1a

I said you could kill him

I offered 200% L:L

I offered reps on top of that too

it was an old recruit from a few years ago that came back this set for our anniversary netting reset

that is really messed up of you guys

another netting set down the drain...

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You know, seeing how Sanct is having a difficult time, it isn't smart to throw around what little weight your tag has and FS a smaller tag. Because every other legit tag in the game is bigger than you and won't take much to set you to farm status.

Stupid move by DK. Granted NA is a fraction of what they used to be, but I have to believe they have at least 1 friend left in this game. And that's really all it will take to wipe DK out. I would reconsider playing the bully card when you're going to be the victim matched up against any other alliance.

NA was netting?

what would lead you to believe otherwise? it is our 7 year anniversary set, and we were netting

i had no idea netting meant grabbing tags that were at war!

he is randomly hitting targets. the numbers picked are the lucky ones. lol.

Hmm

this war should be stop..

Posted a cease fire on our forums, waiting on bstrong to sort this out, sorry llaar, looks like we fked up :-(

DKnights should FA llaar to the top! :P

so, maybe i jumped a little bit. but heres my stance on it.

i stopped talking about any reps or retlas after the GS were done.

i demanded reps for the oh ehat were they, the 8-9 consecutive LG done in a 5 minute window. i never was offered reps when i asked for them, never was mentioned by llaar. only after i mentioned the 4:kill status: the GS started.

i stopped talking about reps and retals when that happened. ------------------------

now, i had talked to someone last night, who this individual mentioned to me that NA was having a reunion set. Had llaar mentioned this in the beginning not said, take L:L for 8 hits. and the GS not been i would have re-acted way differently.

I wasnt aware that it was netting to double tap ppl at war, performing GS and chem attacks.

Maybe I did jump the gun a bit.

i didnt know it was a 'reunion' set until after the dec was posted and we started.

So because it's a reunion set it changes everything? lol

Bstrong has soft spot for reunions :p

lol didnt you claim they didnt try to fix it?

"Is there anything we can do so he doesnt get killed?" Not good enough for you?

jesus.

show me where i claimed this at. i stand by my decision.

he never offered reps in the beginning, after he finally found the right link for wiki with our retal policy on it we got gs'ed. i had to assume he mentioned this to his member and thats when the GS started and the RoR. I was insulted in the beginning of our talks to begin with when he only offered L:L.

I don't know about you all but Ilar has it coming for what he did as soon as i can... watch out i'm here and waiting :D

You could have killed one country or talked more before war but meh. Killing NA seems to be what people like to do for little to no reason if needed.

well if you wouldn;t be pricks as soon as you get the chance that would be fine Locket but since you have it coming :)

soultaker: locket isn't in NA

also, its two L's no 'i' in my name

(also two a's)

llaar come to irc

And one r only in llaar

im trying to wrap my brain around this, i openly said in the war dec somewhere on there that i went in the mind to somewhat peacfuly negotiate the 8 LG done on DK.

somewhere in this, DK got RoR, chemed and GS'ed. need i repeat it again...

at what point do i not hold an Alliance responsible for its members actions? after another go around of GS's...after 8 more LG's.

I wasnt interested in talking about reps or retals anymore. I had my guys stock up, we did our FS and we declared.

ugh... this member has a headache

This is what I am talking about.
FSing a clan for those hits.
And I'm correct on saying there was no good talks to avoid the war.

It's not about not holding NA responsible. It is about the fact that NA and llarr were willing to work with you and you chose to war-dec the whole tag instead...

If you had stated EXACTLY what you wanted and he flat out said no you would have a much better case here bstrong...